"Hey, Nature, sorry, but we really need to make money. You'll have to be a bit more accommodating with your strange ecosystem. It's just not working out. Nature is a bad negotiating partner."
Frauke Fischer is an expert in biodiversity, imports coffee and cocoa from Peru, and explains nature in easily understandable terms. Frauke was on her way to Bern, stopped in Basel, and we used the time to record a podcast. In this hour, we meander through coffee, cocoa, biodiversity, and back again.
